we need good fuel in the missouri ratty. >> yes, we do. >> i want to go back to hopping john. i have heard of this dish but i have never had it. is it african inspired. what are is origins of hopping john? >> i call this cajun creole hopping john. >> i love chili peppers. let's see what we have here. yum. >> what do you think? >> fantastic. it is fantastic. i can taste the cayenne. it has like vinegar or lemon in it. there is a little acid in there. >> i put a little apple cider vinegar in there. >> is this recipe in your book? >> it is in my last book, vegan soul kitchen. my latest book has the perfect holiday cake. >> tell us about this holiday cake while i cut myself a piece. >> okay. once again, i often draw on a lot of southern staples and the main ingredient of this is molasses. >> i love molasses. >> it is the perfect sweetener. >> did you know that if you take two tablespoons of black mow has sis everyday, that is your full compliment of minerals, wednesday' need minerals for the brain to work well. >> what is this called? there is the ginger molasses cake with molasse